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Even More Markov Modeling: What's in a Probability?

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I've twice gotten into heated debates, (and I remember the count since I still find it weird that I've gotten into arguments about this), that there is no universal letter frequency probability values for the English language. Both times I stumbled into this argument by answering the question, "So, do passwords match letter frequency analysis of the English language as a whole", by replying, "Well, it depends on what training set you use to calculate the probabilities of the English language, but for the most part, yes". In reality I should have just said, "For the most part yes..." Letter frequency analysis, and its big brother Markov models, depend entirely on their training sets. This means while different training sets may share common characteristics, there is no one LFA, or Markov set of probabilities that perfectly model the English, (or any other), language. But what about those tables Wikipedia posted ? Well, they are based on a study in 1...

Out of Context Graph Challenge #1

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I'm struggling with the best way to graph some new data I just analyzed based on the RockYou list. Since I'm also too lazy to write up a full post on it right now, I thought I might as well throw it out as a challenge to the five or so people who read this blog. I'll buy a beer for the first person who can correctly state what the following graph shows. The beer is redeemable at any conference I happen to meet you at, (For example: Shmoocon). Here are a few hints: It is based on a subset of one million passwords from the RockYou set It has to deal with a project I am working on There is one word you MUST include in your submission for it to be valid Answers will only be accepted in the comments. This contest will run until someone gets it right or I actually get around to writing a post on this. Imaginary bonus points are applied if you have any suggestions on a better way to graph the data.

More Analysis of the Rockyou Password List - Strong Passwords

So it's been an interesting last couple of days. First of all, it's a bit amazing how popular the Rockyou list has become after it was mentioned in the New York Times article. While I'm not going to provide a link, let's be honest, if you can't find it, you are not looking . The thing that keeps going through my head is that we may have just narrowly missed having a black swan event , (Ok, Mr. O'Conner just posted about those in his blog so the term is stuck in my head, even though I'm using it wrong.) Can you imagine what would have happened if the public RockYou list had contained e-mail addresses? While lists of this size have been distributed before, (and black hats have been able to obtain the whole list + email addresses), I really don't know what a public disclosure of a list this size containing e-mail addresses and passwords would be like. It probably won't lead to an internet apocalypse , but we would have people looking up friends/co-wo...

New York Times Article

When I was interviewed a week and a half ago by a reporter from the New York Times about the Rockyou hack, I honestly never expected for it to end up on the front page of the newspaper, but there you go . As a friend mentioned though, it doesn't really count since it's below the fold ;) While I'm ecstatic about being quoted, there are a few things I wish could have been changed. Just saying that makes me feel like the guy who won the million dollar lottery, but is annoyed that he didn't get the 10 million jackpot. That being said, I have a blog, and this is the internet so I might as well complain away ;) First of all, I feel the need to explain my quote. Here is an excerpt from my conversation with the reporter: Matt's Brain: "Don't say anything stupid. Don't say anything stupid. Don't say anything stupid..." Reporter: "I take it this is the largest password list ever stolen right?" Me: "Well, it's the largest one ever p...

The RockYou 32 Million Password List Top 100

But first, a quick responses to one of the previous comments, (since it really did merit a front-page post). Tfcx posted: The initial vulnerability was posted 29th November on a hacking forum called darkc0de here: http://forum.darkc0de.com/index.php?action=vthread&forum=11&topic=13082 Thanks, as that really helps narrow down the timeframe, (and reading that post and related posts was interesting if a bit depressing). The hack itself appears pretty straightforward once you see it, (like most things once the solution is presented to you it's easy, but finding it in the first place is hard). I'm still interested in the hacker Igigi, and have been tossing about all sorts of theories; but I'll refrain from posting them here since they are all pure WAGs right now. Now on to the main topic: Per Thorsheim wrote: I would like to see a comparison of Twitters 370 banned passwords against the top 370 or so passwords stolen from rockyou (http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/27/twi...

RockYou Hacked: 32 Million, (yes that's Million), Passwords Stolen

As the title implies, the popular Facebook and MySpace game/widget maker RockYou was hacked, with the hack becoming public last week Tuesday, December 15th. What's worse is that RockYou stored all of their passwords in the clear, (no hashing), so 32 million plaintext passwords were stolen. I've been doing some digging into this so I can add something to the conversation, but for a great general overview I highly recommend reading TechCrunch's writeup . First of all, if you have ever used the following social networking applications, you probably should change your password ... like right now. Slideshow Uploadphoto Photofx Glittertext Funnotes Countdown Superhug Myspace layouts Stickers Superwall Pieces of flair Speedracing Likeness Hugme Birthday cards Yup, that's why we're talking about 32 million user accounts, (though in all fairness, many of those user accounts are almost certainly duplicates created by the same person). One day after the attack became public, t...